[PapaRazor]

e essa mãe da laura hein

[Khoserken]

Escorreu uma lágrima aqui na última conversa do Hawk com a Log Lady.

[DAC]

Bom episódio também. Estou na esperança do Cooper voltar no próximo.
Semana que vem é o penúltimo já

[Nitro]

Twin Peaks tem sua versão One Punch Man agora.

[Nitro]

Eu me caguei

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

havia uma esperança por parte de alguns, que o bowie tivesse feito algumas cenas antes da doença.


mas não



não peguei a analogia da forma q ele aparece


ja ta dando raiva as cenas da Audrey, ta claro pra mim que ela ta num sonho dentro do sonho.... vão abrir a porta e ela ta em coma ainda, Richard nasceu de uma mulher em coma, será? ou ela fica em coma as vezes como sequelas da explosão?


não entendi a conexão do cara ter se matado com a história da trama, provavelmente vai acontecer alguma coisa com o Carl ali, pq ele é personagem central da história, e pode ser que a mina que engole o sapo-mosca seja a mulher dele, que é mencionada pelo Fireman no primeiro episódio pro Coop.

[Nitro]

[Tigass]

Esse foi o melhor episódio da temporada, a cena do Hawk com a Log Lady mostra o quanto Lynch é mestre e pode fazer, se quiser, uma cena emocionante de melodrama.

Mestre é mestre, gordo é bosta.

[Nitro]

Melhor episódio foi o 8.

[DAC]

Ri

[.Kiko.]

Cena muito tocante mesmo.

É bom lembrar que ele já tinha homenageado ela: nos créditos do primeiro episódio teve o "In memory of Catherine E. Coulson".

Mas nesse ep 15 ele homenageou tbm a personagem: "In memory of Margaret Lanterman".

No próximo mês já vai completar 2 anos da morte dela.

Ela era amiga do Lynch desde o início dos anos 70.

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

perguntaram no forum de discussão o q dizia a placa que aparece na estrada antes do Mr.C entrar no segundo andar da convenience store que materializou momentaneamente na estrada que ele tava..... achei essa resposta aqui interessante.

varias analogias que eu não duvido nada que o lynch tenha feito de fato

could not read what that sign said, but at the very beginning of the episode when Nadine is walking with her golden shovel to 'Big Ed's Gas Farm', there is a sign on the same side of the road and the same shape and size as the sign that Mr. C drives past.  The sign Nadine walks by is about town drinking restrictions and says something like, 'for alcohol under 21 not tolerated', so its about the rules of the town, connects to bars/roadhouses, etc., but as well we know what Jean Michel is doing there with the local students, so kind of shows the underside of whats been going on.  Also, I think Mr. C had headed from Western Montana to somewhere closer to a densely forested area, maybe Washington State, given all the trees around, something like an alternate Twin Peaks, or its underside, like the motel from FWWM that Leland was led to by Teresa Banks(an alternate bosom/home woman).
With this connection, I think Mr. C was visiting the convenience store as something like an alternate Big Ed's Gas Farm, one turned into a convenience store.  When Big Ed first saw Norma being seduced by Walter, he began burning his 'dreams' with that note and his reflection started jumping, as if it was changing into another reality, just as his 'bosom woman' Norma was changing from his dream-love into someone swayed by the convenience of the 'well dressed man' Walter, sacrificing the 'love that went into those pies' for cheaper pies that are more 'convenient' for the profit margin, Walter himself being a man of convenience here, comes around once in a while, brings in money, takes off again, not as many 'problems' as Big Ed.  When Big Ed's dreams were about to be crushed for convenience of Norma's business partner and new boyfriend, it is as if his 'bosom woman' was opening up the door for him to enter that prostitution motel, to seek convenience himself, since his dreams were gone.  When 'Big Ed's Gas Farm' turns into a 'convenience store', which also has gas pumps, this is the bosom/heart there, easy and convenient relations, like Walter the 'well dressed man' and Norma.  Also the idea of bosom as the cargo hold of a ship, the very bottom where things are stored away and not brought out; and for example this can be applied to Big Ed, what was underneath his love for Norma, that they could finally get married, was that flickering reflection and the bitterness of burning that note/coordinates, his 'station' turning into a 'convenience store'.
This 'burning' resonates with the insurance fires, where people start a business, and then burn the business down in order to collect the insurance money; so that instead of making money over time through the business, the money comes in right away and quick, like buying something conveniently, quickly, instead of going shopping at the grocery.  When Dougie was marking the insurance forms, exposing the arson frauds, he marked the forms with stairs going up from one name, leading all the way down to the bottom of the page where another name was.  This is a representation of what Mr. C was doing at the convenience store: first he goes above the convenience store, as if vanishing, that the search for convenience or the running of a convenience store as the place to meet made him change; and then Mr. C finds himself as the bottom led by more woodsmen(something like going from one name on the form to another, with paid cops helping to lead you out of the bottom/trouble), in some kind of basement or cargo hold where he has to climb back up again, then arriving at the motel and a new bosom woman to let him in. So 'who built this heart'?  Like Big Ed's changing reflection, Cooper in that situation after his dreams about Twin Peaks, Laura, and Annie were shattered, became a joke so that he would laugh "Annie, Annie, Annie, hahhaha", how stupid was he, now he knows its all about convenience(like he will teach Richard now), then become Mr. C, then would have to climb back up from the bottom and where would he be then, at that motel looking for convenience.  Also, at the bottom, Mr. C is being led through a deep forrest, you can see it on the sides, same deep forest Steven was caught in, and he also wanted to go 'up', but used a bullet(or at least seemed to) instead of the stairs.  Finally the position of the bosom womans house reminds of the 119 womans house across from Jade's 'place of work', something like Dougie's alternate 'bosom'/family if he live the 'viva las vegas' life of convenience and cheap amusement and gave up with Janey E....., 119 and the kid were always watching for his car and waiting for him to come back, then they heard tragic music after it exploded and he was gone for good....

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

Lynch é vimaneiro, chupem


The bell-shaped machine and its variations—we've now seen them in the Giant's "home," in space with Cooper and his eyeless friend (who jumped off and landed in Twin Peaks), and above the convenience store holding the essence of Jeffries—sure look like Die Glocke, the rumored Nazi time-travel/space-travel machine that was supposedly hauled off to Argentina as the Allies were closing in on the Nazis in WWII. 
I don't know (or care?) if the show ever makes explicit reference to it, because for me it's enough that Die Glocke (The Bell) continues to show up in the show, sometimes in the company of The Giant. (The German underground lab where Die Glocke was built is called The Giant, or "Der Riese," on the Czech border.

" And where did Jeffries disappear into the Bell?


Argentina

















só lembrando que o projeto blue book rolou pesado no alasca e que a Coruja era o símbolo que os abduzidos lembravam

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

mas mas mas mas isso é pura coincidência


( ver o quadro)

[.Kiko.]

Todo mundo deve pensar isso, mas é sempre bom falar: que pena não termos os falecidos Frank Silva e David Bowie nessa temporada.

Só uma coisa:

O personagem do Bowie era um vilão?

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

pode ser que tenha um bowie dark e um normal...não da pra saber ainda


sobre o frank silva, acho melhor não tendo.

a imagem dele seria impactante

mas ai o dark cooper seria só um louco desvairado putaneiro....com o dark cooper sendo ( pelo que foi dado a entender ontem) de fato um doppelganger do Coop, fica muito mais interessante a trama.


seria legal ter o Don S Davies ( garland briggs ) vivo, isso sim. se bem que ele é parte integrante do mistério da série, talvez não fosse aparecer mto tbm.

[Nitro]

Mas pera, o Bob não está "possuído" no Dark Cooper?

Teve aquela cena na prisão onde o Dark Cooper olha para o espelho e o rosto dele muda fisicamente, lembrando o rosto do Bob (Frank Silva).

[PapaRazor]

[DAC]

Pelo que eu entendi o BOB tava no Evil Cooper mas acho que eles meio que eram parceiros. E depois que ele tomou o tiro os Woodsmen aparantemente tiraram o BOB dele.

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

Era pra ser o Bob, mas com o frank silva morto, tiveram que mostrar que o Bob estava acompanhando ele, e não mais era ele.