[Gentleman]

OOOOO COOP VOLTOUUUU OOOOO COOP VOLTOUUUU

Que episódio, porra! Deve ter sido o primeiro da temporada que me deixou com vontade de mais, preocupado com o tempo. Todas as (muitas vezes sofríveis) horas valeram a pena só por esses momentos. Fiquei num hype do caralho pro finale. Foda que tem muita ponta solta. Beleza que é Lynch, Twin Peaks, mas outra temporada me parece crucial.

[.Kiko.]

Mais uma coisa:

Não é possível que não tenhamos nada sobre a Annie(que foi levada ao Black Lodge pelo Windom Earle).

O final icônico e triste da segunda temporada tinha ligação com ela e pelo visto o Lynch tacou o foda-se.

[Nitro]

Mais uma coisa:

Não é possível que não tenhamos nada sobre a Annie(que foi levada ao Black Lodge pelo Windom Earle).

O final icônico e triste da segunda temporada tinha ligação com ela e pelo visto o Lynch tacou o foda-se.

Há uma cena dela em Missing Pieces.

[.Kiko.]

Há uma cena dela em Missing Pieces.

E o que ocorre?

[Nitro]

Há uma cena dela em Missing Pieces.

E o que ocorre?

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

ela só aparece no missing pieces, relata que tem dois coops ( não lembro pra quem) e depois tiram o anel dela...então ela pode ter morrido, ou estar em coma, como a atriz não foi escalada pro papel, pode ser que seja só uma menção



sobre o Gentleman rapist dizer que foram horas sofríveis até chegar nesse episódio e que esse foi o único que ele lamentou estar chegando ao final, sinto muito, mas lhe escaparam dos sentidos muita coisa boa, pq mesmo os episódios menos impactantes, tiveram informações importantes, a diferença é que Lynch não faz alarde pra isso durante essas cenas, e graças à Deus que não , pq formuleta hollywoodiana é tudo que o lynch não quer fazer em trabalho algum dele

[.Kiko.]

Nem todos os episódios foram bons.

Alguns claramente tinham pouco conteúdo, ou pelo menos podiam ter vários minutos cortados.

É bom lembrar que inicialmente o Lynch ia fazer apenas 9 episódios. Só depois de uma renegociação com o Showtime é que decidiram dobrar o número de eps.

Eu acho que algo entre 13 e 15 eps seria o ideal pra fazer essa season.

E ainda tenho esperança para uma eventual quarta temporada.

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

a reclamação é por que o 9 10 11 , 12 e 13 a galera queria que seguisse o ritmo de revelações do ep 8. e não foi isso até o 14.

mas vi um atrás do outro antes de ver o 16, e o ritmo é bom. o problema é a semana de espera entre os episódios, que é boa pra estudar as teorias, mas que quebra o pace desses episódios que tem revelações mais sutis, que pro publico acostumado com séries lixo, ou nem percebem, ou não dão a importância devida

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

Audrey é o Micolash, @Tigass

[Gentleman]

ela só aparece no missing pieces, relata que tem dois coops ( não lembro pra quem) e depois tiram o anel dela...então ela pode ter morrido, ou estar em coma, como a atriz não foi escalada pro papel, pode ser que seja só uma menção



sobre o Gentleman rapist dizer que foram horas sofríveis até chegar nesse episódio e que esse foi o único que ele lamentou estar chegando ao final, sinto muito, mas lhe escaparam dos sentidos muita coisa boa, pq mesmo os episódios menos impactantes, tiveram informações importantes, a diferença é que Lynch não faz alarde pra isso durante essas cenas, e graças à Deus que não , pq formuleta hollywoodiana é tudo que o lynch não quer fazer em trabalho algum dele

Ter uma ou outra cena boa ou alguma informação importante dentro de um episódio predominantemente medíocre não o torna bom. Muita cena do Dougie me irritava bastante. Se for contar o tempo de tela, deve ter 1 ou 2 episódios inteiros de participações musicais - não estou falando que elas são ruins.

Talvez eu tenha ficado com essa sensação apenas nesse último episódio, pois, quase sempre, eu tinha pelo menos mais um pra ver e não ficava aquela ansiedade de ter que esperar mais uma semana. Basicamente, eu vi 1 e 2 e só fui assistir ao 3 quando já tinha saído o 9. Teve outros 2 que vi juntos e 13, 14 e 15 vi de uma vez também.

[Gentleman]

‘Twin Peaks’ Finale: 16 Burning Questions Before ‘The Return’ Wraps For Good
Where's Audrey, who else is a tulpa, and how will it all end top our list of crucial questions heading into the final two hours of "Twin Peaks."

Why is Laura “the one”?

In one message for Hawk (Michael Horse), the Log Lady (Catherine Coulson) said, “Watch and listen to the dream of time and space. It all comes out now, flowing like a river. That which is and is not. Hawk, Laura is the one.”

“That which is and is not” could refer to the tulpas or doubles that have been populating the season and than “die” in the Black Lodge, leaving a gold “seed” behind in their place.

The mystery of Laura Palmer (Sheryl Lee) has been ongoing for over 25 years now and ranges far beyond her troubled teen years and violent death. In the brilliant “Part 8,” the Fireman and Senorita Dido (Joy Nash) release a gold orb with Laura’s face in it to Earth following the 1945 nuclear tests in Trinity. While it’s still not super clear what being “the one” means, it seems that she has a purpose here to combat the evil that had arisen — BOB, his minions, and the Woodsmen — from the nuclear tests.

But if she’s dead, how can she be “the one”? Perhaps the Log Lady revealed another clue. When she was about to die, she had told Hawk, “You know about death, that it’s just a change, not an end.” Therefore, Laura Palmer might be around, in some other form, somewhere in Twin Peaks still, ready to fulfill her destiny. It’s a tantalizing possibility that David Lynch and Mark Frost would finally reveal why she was so central to the series.

Where’s Audrey?

“Where” wasn’t the main question surrounding Audrey Horne (Sherilyn Fenn) until the very end of “Part 16.” A late arrival to “The Return,” Audrey’s biggest mystery centered around questions like, “Um, what happened to you?” “Who’s Billy?” “Why are you cheating on your husband?” and “Is that Clark Middleton, star of Hulu’s great drama, ‘The Path’“? (No? Just me on that last one? Fine.)

But when “Audrey’s Dance” is interrupted by a brawl, she looks to her husband and begs, “Get me out of here.” In an instant, everything changes: She’s in a white room, staring into a mirror. Her makeup is gone and her dress has been replaced with what looks like a white t-shirt. An electric rumbling can be heard, but then it cuts to black and “Audrey’s Dance” starts playing again — only this time, it’s backwards.

The backwards music is symbolic of The Lodge, meaning it’s likely Audrey is trapped there. That or — get this — The Roadhouse could be part of The Lodge or an extension of it, a la the gas station where Cooper met with the disembodied spirit of Phillip Jeffries. Still, who put her there and for what purpose remains a mystery. Considering Mr. C fathered a child with her, it seems likely he was involved, but why he’d lock her up and make her play out this strange marriage with Charlie is unknown.

Audrey is an important figure in “Twin Peaks,” so it’s reasonable to expect a significant resolution to her story. She may have shown up late in “The Return,” but there’s no way she’s a minor part of it.

Who is Linda?

In one of the very first scenes in “Part 1,” the Fireman (Carel Struycken) is sitting in the black-and-white music room with Cooper (Kyle MachLachlan) and tells him, “Remember 430. Richard and Linda. Two birds with one stone.” The identity of Linda has been mostly a mystery. In Part 6, Mickey (Jeremy Lindholm) from the Fat Trout Trailer Park had mentioned that his wife Linda, whom we’ve yet to meet, just got a new wheelchair from the government after waiting for six months.

In “Part 16,” Evil Cooper had confirmed that Richard (Eamon Farren) was his offspring with Audrey Horne (Sherilyn Fenn) when he took Richard with him to a set of coordinates. Telling the young man to check out a big rock in the distance, Mr. C watched as Richard climbed on top of it and was killed with electricity. “Goodbye, my son,” was the only acknowledgement of their bond. Cold, Mr. C.

One ongoing theory is that Linda is Richard’s twin sister, which could explain the two birds with one stone, meaning Mr. C’s sperm. The only problem with this is that fraternal twins are created with two eggs and two sperm. Not sure if biology really matters here though.

Or the “stone” could refer to the big rock that Richard was standing on where he was killed, and that would make sense to be able to kill another person there. Just send them coordinates. Why Linda, a person in a wheelchair we haven’t met yet, would have to die is still a mystery that will hopefully be resolved.

Who is Judy?

Judy is a mysterious offscreen character that has been talked about since “Fire Walk With Me,” and she’s been referenced by Philip Jeffries (David Bowie) the most. A monkey also says her name in the film, which is such a nice Lynchian touch. When Evil Cooper goes to see the teapot version of Jeffries in “Part 15,” he’s told that he’s already met Judy and is then given coordinates that appear to lead to Twin Peaks.

At this point, it’s anybody’s best guess as to Judy’s identity since she’s only been spoken about without any helpful specifics. If Judy is in Twin Peaks, she could be Naido, an idea that’s also mentioned in another theory. Since the monkey in “Fire Walk With Me” says “Judy” right before the film cuts to a close-up of dead Laura Palmer, there’s definitely a link. Judy could be Laura transformed (see above) or perhaps a tulpa of Laura. Or maybe she’s a Black Lodge spirit. Really, we don’t know, but we wanted to talk about Judy since Philip didn’t want to.

What’s up with Naido?

The mysterious Japanese woman (Nae Yuuki) with flesh-covered eye sockets first appeared in the Purple Room with Cooper and then was later found naked in the forest at Jack Rabbit’s Palace by the Bookhouse Boys. She’s currently locked up in a cell in the Twin Peaks Sheriff’s Office for her own safety, which has inspired an intriguing theory linked to Diane, which you can check out on the next page.

At this point the door is open for almost any sort of interpretation for Naido. She could be the mysterious Judy that Jeffries didn’t want to talk about but that Mr. C has apparently already met. Since her speech is garbled, there’s no way of knowing what she’s saying. Or, with her vaguely Japanese name that doesn’t have an exact translation, Naido could represent a victim of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki nuclear bombs, which would link her to the Trinity testing in New Mexico.

What the F is up with Sarah Palmer?!

Sarah Palmer (Grace Zabriskie) has been popping up sporadically throughout “The Return.” First, she’s shown drinking, smoking, and watching violent TV shows about animals and boxing. That was all the way back in “Part 2,” and by “Part 13” she has a breakdown shopping for groceries, claiming men were coming and later, at her house, that a disturbance reported to Hawk was a “goddamn bad story.”

Was this peculiar? Yes. Alarming? Maybe a little, but not compared to her last appearance. Sitting at a bar, alone, Sarah is verbally accosted by a pushy patron. When he won’t let her be, she — obviously – pulls off her face and bites his neck off. As he bleeds out on the floor, she screams and claims he just fell over.

We haven’t seen Sarah since, but it’s safe to say we haven’t forgotten her either. Removing her face was reminiscent of Laura’s action in “Part 2,” except Sarah’s daughter unveiled a bright light while Sarah’s mask was guarding a black void. Some are speculating this means she’s the “Mother” figure, who appeared in “Part 3” inside the “switching station” with Naido. Mother is also presumed to be the evil black void that emerged from the glass cube and tore apart the two lovers in the premiere.

Is Sarah Palmer harboring an ancient evil? Is it in control of her? Is it more powerful than Mr. C, or one of his creations? This question feels like one that almost has to be addressed.

Is anyone else a tulpa?

Tulpa fever: Catch it. After the revelation that the woman we thought was Diane was actually her tulpa in “Part 16,” it’s now a manic guessing game as to who else might not be who they seem. Dougie was a tulpa created by Mr. C to prevent the latter from going back to the Black Lodge, but who else might be a being manufactured from purposeful thought? Cooper? Audrey? Red? Judy? Someone in Twin Peaks? Will there be more tulpa creation, as Cooper seemed to imply when he promised Janey-E (Naomi Watts) and Sonny Jim (Pierce Gagnon) he would return to them? Tulpa mania has taken over “Twin Peaks.” It’s just a matter of how long it lasts.

What happened to the little girl in New Mexico?

Listen, “Part 8” is such a big deal it has to play a part in the finale. Be it the return of the dirty bearded men (a.k.a. the woodsmen) or an all-out nuclear war, the standout episode of “The Return” doesn’t need any additional tie-ins to ensure its relevance, but we’re kind of hoping a few surface anyway.

For one: What happened to the bug that crawled inside a little girl’s mouth in New Mexico? Lulled to sleep by the woodsman on the radio, chanting, “This is the water and this is the well. Drink full and descend. The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within,” the girl had just returned home from a date with a young boy. As she slept, the bug hatched in the desert flew into her window, wedged open her mouth, and crawled inside.

That’s the last we saw of it, and that’s all we know. Based on the scene preceding the bug’s arrival — the glowing golden orb sent through a screen to Earth — perhaps there’s a Laura Palmer connection, but there’s really no way of knowing. Not yet, anyway.

Are Red and Chad doomed?

Although Evil Cooper has been set up as the ultimate villain, a doppleganger who’s been influenced by BOB, the series has been barreling towards a showdown between him and the newly awakened Cooper lately, and that includes getting rid of extraneous bad guys. Some of the more recently fallen include: Ike the Spike (Christophe Zajacwdenek), Ray Griffith (George Monroe), Duncan Todd (Patrick Fischler), possibly Steven Burnett (Caleb Landry Jones), Richard Horne, and Gary and Chantel Hutchens (Tim Roth, Jennifer Jason Leigh).

So who’s left in Twin Peaks? Red (Balthazar Getty) is a frightening drug trafficker who was acting a little funny — throwing a coin that hung in the air for a bit, and claiming the his liver caused him to stamp his foot. This behavior seems suspect, as if he were a tulpa or lodge spirit. Dirty cop Chad (John Pirruccello) is still around too, although he’s now been arrested for an unspecified crime. The sheriff’s department has apparently been watching him for months. Some of his criminal behavior that we know about includes taking a bribe from Richard Horne and later intercepting a letter to the sheriff that would’ve incriminated Richard for a hit-and-run killing.

We’re betting on Evil Cooper, Freddie Sykes (Jake Wardle) or maybe the supernatural to take care of these two.

What’s up with that humming sound?

The Log Lady had once said, “The electricity is humming,” and, as has been established this season, electricity is basically a force that has good or evil intentions behind it. The humming hasn’t been featured as much as the electrical static-y crackle has, and therefore it feels like it’s its own thing.

The hum has been heard in Ben Horne’s (Richard Beymer) office at the Great Northern Hotel, although the source can’t be pinpointed. Later, James (James Marshall) makes his rounds as a security guard at the hotel and hears the humming as he checks on the furnace. Finally, the humming is heard again at the Las Vegas hospital. It lures Bushnell Mullins (Don Murray) out of the room in order for MIKE (Al Strobel) to wake up Cooper from his Dougie coma. The humming appears to be benevolent, and all signs point to it possibly being Laura trying to communicate or help out. Because of its presence in the Great Northern, some have speculated that it’s Audrey since she also has a connection with Cooper. We’ll be keeping our ears peeled on Sunday to find out if it is a spirt at all.

Who — or what — will Freddie punch?

The amazing story behind Freddie Sykes’ (Jake Wardle) iron fist may have already paid off. When he and James (James Marshall) went to The Roadhouse, Freddie’s friend was attacked by Renee’s (Jessica Szohr) jealous husband Chuck, and Freddie put an end to the fight with one forceful blow.

But is that it? After such a long, fantastical story involving key figures like the Fireman, was this Freddie’s “destiny”? To save James from a beating in a bar over a woman neither of them know that well? That’s a lot of time spent to lead up to one rather unimportant scene… unless there’s more to Freddie’s purpose.

Where is the real Diane?

Revealing that the f-bomb dropping Diane we’d come to love wasn’t the real Diane at all, but a tulpa placed by Mr. C, opened up quite a few doors to Diane’s true identity and whereabouts. “I’m in the sheriff’s station,” Diane’s tulpa says before she’s yanked away to the Red Room. Considering Cooper’s beeline for the same station as soon as he wakes up (and Mr. C’s similar objective), it seems like we should be taking Diane literally as to where she is.

But could Diane look like someone else? Do tulpas have to be identical to their creators? After all, Dougie looked a little different than Mr. C, and Mr. C looks a little different than Cooper. How much change can there be? Could Diane be… Naido? Naido is currently residing in the sheriff’s station after Andy took her there. He was told to protect her, that “she’s very important, and there are people who want her dead.” Diane and Naido also share a common fashion sense, and their names share all the same letters save one.

Diane is probably in the sheriff’s station, but she may not be who we think.

Does Mr. C still stink?

In Part 3, when the tulpa Dougie is pulled into the Black Lodge, Mr. C crashes his car and then starts puking dark, bloody, and chunky garmonbozia violently all over himself. Apparently, the stench from that is so foul that it’s toxic. One cop investigating the crash was sent to the hospital and another cop called for an ambulance equipped with gas masks. A sample of the puke was taken to the lab for study as a poisonous substance. Since it was so potent, we can’t help but wonder if that has lingered on him. Perhaps unrelated, in Part 7, the little girl (Ivy George) at the crime scene where Ike was apprehended commented that he had “smelled funny.”

Will Agent Cooper bring back his iconic catchphrases in Twin Peaks?

Please. Please just give us one more “damn fine coffee.” After so much time spent with Cooper-as-Dougie mimicking his old slogans as best he could (but sputtering out half-memories at best), what we need in the finale is to hear a full-throated, enthusiastic, “damn fine cup of coffee” with all the gusto of the original Cooper. Call it fan service. Call it whatever you want. We still want to hear it.

Who will be the closing band at The Roadhouse?

A rotating band playing at the Roadhouse as various Twin Peaks residents vignettes play out in its booths and on the dance floor has been one of the best new additions to the franchise. Here’s the full playlist of performers and their songs, which includes acts such as the Chromatics, Rebekah Del Rio, Eddie Vedder, Moby and “The” Nine Inch Nails. With only two parts left, we’re hoping for some really great acts to close out the show. IndieWire Special Projects Editor Steve Greene did some digging and discovered some of David Lynch’s favorite bands that could possibly show up at the Roadhouse. Or we could bring back James because he’s always been cool.

Is this the end of “Twin Peaks”?

It’s OK if this question goes unanswered in the finale. After all, barring an onslaught of dead characters or the end of the world entirely (which, given the nuclear bombs shown in “Part 8,” could happen), there will always be speculation about another season, movie, or “Twin Peaks”-VR experience.

That being said, there’s been plenty of debate throughout “The Return” as to how it will end. Will Lynch and Frost wrap up their story with a definitive conclusion, or will they leave things open-ended, perhaps with a cliffhanger reminiscent of the original series’ finale?

There’s no telling this tandem what they should do, nor is there really a good reason to hope for one over the other. Closure is most important, whether it’s for these 18 hours or the previous three seasons. Here’s hoping the final moments provide it, no matter if there’s a “next” or not.

[Tigass]

Audrey é o Micolash, @Tigass

Faz sentido dentro daquele lance do sonho com a Monica Belluci.

Vai realmente ser MUITO lolsuper se todos esses 16 capítulos foram um sonho da Audrey, e a série só vai se passar no mundo real nessas duas últimas horas, ia ser uma subversão mais fodida que o terço final de Mulholand Drive

[Jordanes do Mar Jônico]

Audrey é o Micolash, @Tigass

Faz sentido dentro daquele lance do sonho com a Monica Belluci.

Vai realmente ser MUITO lolsuper se todos esses 16 capítulos foram um sonho da Audrey, e a série só vai se passar no mundo real nessas duas últimas horas, ia ser uma subversão mais fodida que o terço final de Mulholand Drive

não acho que seja essa a interpretação. de ser um sonho pode até ser, mas o sentido de '' sonha o sonho, e depois vive ele/nele'', pra mim , é mais a interpretação que a física ( prefiro falar ciência quantica) quântica da pro papel do observador, como legitimador da realidade.

[Tigass]

Audrey é o Micolash, @Tigass

Faz sentido dentro daquele lance do sonho com a Monica Belluci.

Vai realmente ser MUITO lolsuper se todos esses 16 capítulos foram um sonho da Audrey, e a série só vai se passar no mundo real nessas duas últimas horas, ia ser uma subversão mais fodida que o terço final de Mulholand Drive

não acho que seja essa a interpretação. de ser um sonho pode até ser, mas o sentido de '' sonha o sonho, e depois vive ele/nele'', pra mim , é mais a interpretação que a física ( prefiro falar ciência quantica) quântica da pro papel do observador, como legitimador da realidade.

Você viu Mulholand Drive?

[Kar]

Acabei de terminar o 8. No começo estava pronto pra comentar que era o pior programa já feito para a TV, mas quando fui me dar conta, estava hipnotizado assistindo essa bosta viajada.

[Nitro]

Tive que negativar, Kar. Desculpa.

[.Kiko.]

Tive que negativar, Kar. Desculpa.

[2]

Não esperava isso do Kar. Os filmes da Marvel já estão afetando o rapaz.

[Giroux]

Estou me divertindo com o rage no Twitter com o final, surpreendente a quantidade de pessoas que esperavam um final mais redondo e que explicasse os mistérios centrais da trama. Haja cu e haja dedo.

[Khoserken]

Well played, Lynch. Well played.

[.Kiko.]

DAVID LYNCH É O MAIOR TROLL DE TODOS OS TEMPOS!